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Old 01-27-2012, 12:12 PM
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Default New Estes Composite pricing ??

Saw an announcement in a publication regarding the pricing of the new Estes Composite Engines.
Saw that the F was something lovely like $54.00 retail but included a $25 haz mat charge.

Are they for freakin' real ?
Even if that includes a $25 haz mat charge in the price, that is still $29.00 for an F engine !

Who do they plan to have pay these prices ?
Not even NASA as their budget has been cut enough to where they can't afford 'em either.

Most that know about and fly F power and above know about Aerotech SU, and also know about reloadables. Most that also do so know about the internet and order online to save mega buxx.

This sounds like another failed entry into mid-power for the big E to me.
I was hoping an association with Estes of these relabled Aerotech motors would result in LOWER prices due to their vast distribution network.

Whomever is setting these prices must have not one, but a dozen screws loose.

I know the ONLY way I will be purchasing any is if they hit the shelves at a Hobby Lobby for about $29 (with no haz mat included) and I can use a 40-50% off coupon. Otherwise, NO SALE !
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:09 PM
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Maybe that's for qty 2 or 3 motors in a pack?
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:48 PM
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Saw an announcement in a publication regarding the pricing of the new Estes Composite Engines.
Saw that the F was something lovely like $54.00 retail but included a $25 haz mat charge.

Are they for freakin' real ?
Even if that includes a $25 haz mat charge in the price, that is still $29.00 for an F engine !

Who do they plan to have pay these prices ?
Not even NASA as their budget has been cut enough to where they can't afford 'em either.

Most that know about and fly F power and above know about Aerotech SU, and also know about reloadables. Most that also do so know about the internet and order online to save mega buxx.

This sounds like another failed entry into mid-power for the big E to me.
I was hoping an association with Estes of these relabled Aerotech motors would result in LOWER prices due to their vast distribution network.

Whomever is setting these prices must have not one, but a dozen screws loose.

I know the ONLY way I will be purchasing any is if they hit the shelves at a Hobby Lobby for about $29 (with no haz mat included) and I can use a 40-50% off coupon. Otherwise, NO SALE !
There was a thread about this on TRF .

The pricing was presented quite awkwardly on the Estes website. In fact, it's still up there .

They're supposed to redo the web pages to make it clearer what the actual costs are.

All that said, I still find it very disappointing that Estes would put something so misleading up on their website. It seems to have done nothing but draw them criticism.

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Old 01-27-2012, 01:49 PM
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Nope it was EACH !
I have heard that there was some discussion about it over on that OTHER forum also...
Completely ******* if true.....
Somebody in the pricing department must have fallen out of a tall tree and bumped their head HARD to come up with these numbers.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:10 PM
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Nope it was EACH !
I have heard that there was some discussion about it over on that OTHER forum also...
Completely ******* if true.....
Somebody in the pricing department must have fallen out of a tall tree and bumped their head HARD to come up with these numbers.
Yes, it was presented as each (and thus very misleading). But it should have been subtracted out at checkout. At least we assume it would have - surely the web page writer wasn't that far in the dark

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Same as the E9 pricing.

They will sell tens of thousands of these through normal retail distribution. Those will be priced at normal retail price and any HAZMAT shipping will be handled appropriately (many big hobby chains use their own trucks).

The Estes website lists the price plus HAZMAT for one motor/pack. If you read all the words (which were explained long ago when the E9 pricing appeared) you will see that the HAZMAT fee virtually disappears when you buy larger quantities. Like 20 packs (E9) or motors (F, G).
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:29 PM
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Heck, I wouldn't consider buying their F engines at those prices! In fact, $29 per engine is well above what I would want to pay. Zero sales here.

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Heck, I wouldn't consider buying their F engines at those prices! In fact, $29 per engine is well above what I would want to pay. Zero sales here.

Joe


Once again, for those hard of hearing, the full MSRP for an Estes Composite F motor is $24.95 and for a G it is $26.99

The price displayed CLEARLY includes the HAZMAT fee to ship them directly to you legally.

SAVE $20.00 on each F or G engine when you purchase 3-6 F or G engines.

SAVE $25.00 on each F or G engine when you purchase 7-11 F or G engines.

SAVE $30.00 on each F or G engine when you purchase 12-20 F or G engines.

Exactly the same price as Aerotech motors

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/est/est9777.htm

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In addition to shreadvector's correct post, the Estes E30 has a suggested retail price of $20.99, and the Aerotech E30 suggested retail price is $59.99 for 3 motors (a little savings by buying them in a 3pack). Once all the Estes motors are available, you should be able to find them discounted at the local hobby shop, just the same as the Aerotech motors. The online guys will most likely be discounting them also. Online, the E motors should be shippable without a hazmat charge thru USPS, but the F and G motors will obviously need to be shipped with the UPS hazmat charge.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure you can get 3 Aerotech E30's for $19.99 on their valuerockets.com website plus shipping.
Far cry from $59.99 which is just plain *******.
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