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Old 03-19-2014, 03:38 PM
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It is identical except:

* Nose cone is two part injection molded. Required tube type plastic cement or a drop of CA.

* Tube is longer and will hold a proper amount of wadding. Alpha III is way too short since it is a relic of the Alpha which was born during the era of paper parchute protectors.

* Has white tube and red fins and blue nose. Stickers apply easily to the white tube and it looks completely perfect with no paint.

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So is this Make-it Take-it pack the equivalent of the Alpha-3?
NIU has some that I'll be using for a class in the spring.
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So is this Make-it Take-it pack the equivalent of the Alpha-3?
NIU has some that I'll be using for a class in the spring.


Nose cone is different and the body tube is a little longer, but I bought several of the make-it/take-it kits last year and kit bashed one into an Alpha III with the help of decals from excelsior rocketry. I purchased a Balsa Alpha nose cone from Semroc. I cut the body tube down to correct size and used the red fin can as is. It made a beautiful Red and White Alpha III.

If you visit the link in my sig "My Low Power Fleet" you'll see it sitting there just behind the Mini Red MAX.

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Old 03-19-2014, 04:10 PM
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Thanks Fred and Dave. Last time they were short on time, and ended up picking up a local Viking bulk pack
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MiTi builds into a model that is identical in configuration (except for the launch lug) as the ready-to-fly HiJinks. PNC-50YP nose cone in two parts (I'll probably pre-glue those together pre-event when I use it in July) and a body that's a little longer than an Alpha III. If you fold the 'chute in thirds instead of in half to pack it, there's enough room for sufficient wadding.

If I get a chance I can post a comparison picture of an Alpha III and a MiTi from home tonight - both assembled and kits - if desired.
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When I saw Estes was making Mi-Ti's I thought they got into the adult beverage business.

Interesting someone is selling a product designed to be given for free. That's another hope. Free drinks! Dashed!

Oh, well.

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I used Make and Takes for a "build now, fly later" event at the Portland Mini Maker Faire. I bought 100 from AC Supply, but I've seen better prices from Hobbylinc.

Participants got a kit, a chance to build them on-site, and a coupon for a motor at an Oregon Rocketry launch. It was a break even sort of deal.

I altered the instructions a little so that the models could be built in a one-hour session. After the first few sessions I had people glue on the launch lugs at home; I drew an alignment mark on the tubes for them.

I sold 77 of the 100 kits I purchased. I sold the rest at cost to a home schooling group, who were very enthusiastic about the deal.

So most of the home schoolers, and maybe ten of the others, have shown up at launches.

The models were all flyable. I think I had to replace one launch lug (I had extras in my kit). Reading the tea leaves, I started giving everyone who showed up a second motor.
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We build hundreds of them every year at the AMA EXPO. Sessions take 45 minutes that gives us 15 minutes to cleanup and reset.

Lugs are glued on in a minute. No line. Stand up tube. Apply yellow wood glue to lug and stand next to tube. They are both perfectly round with flat ends so they align perfectly.

We demonstrate installing wadding and proper parachute folding. We warn them not to pack the parachute until later that night since there is wet glue inside.
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I came across someone who is selling the Estes "Make It-Take It" kits, the red/white/blue Athena RTF-like rockets that the Boy Scouts use for record-setting mass launches, on eBay (see: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Three-Estes...#h t_767wt_884 ). I wish Estes would sell these tri-colored kits, perhaps seasonally, before the 4th of July.


Hi J, Do you need more of these kits for the school ? we can get 25 of these for less than $ 65.00 delivered.
they have them at Hobby link on line, they may cost a little more to deliver to AK.
but if you contact them and let them know that they are for the school maybe they will help out on the shipping.
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Built up Alpha III and MiTi and kits.

The MiTi body tube is 1/2 inch longer than that of the Alpha III.
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So is this Make-it Take-it pack the equivalent of the Alpha-3?
NIU has some that I'll be using for a class in the spring.
Yes. It's similar to the RTF Athena (an Alpha III fin unit with a longer nose cone--IIRC, the "MI-TI" has a somewhat shorter body tube than the Athena).
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