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Old 10-25-2008, 12:43 AM
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The Phoenix Bird had thin wall ST-13 tubes and the Enerjet 1340 had thicker wall, perhaps Minimax or custom tubing, that being the only kit I recall seeing it. TWO different nose cone and coupler molds! The 1340 fins came red and the Phoenix Bird Blue and later other colors. Same mold. Lee once discussed the mold in great detail with me and mentioned several ways he wished he changed the design to improve strength and manufacturability.

They always gave spare PB's for retail demos we did and public displays like football halftime shows, fairs, and air shows. We were outreach gods.

MPC gave a lot of "Moon Go's", Centuri "Phoenix Birds", and Estes "Big Berthas".

On that BEAUTIFUL Phoenix Bird photo, the first one has a Nike-Ram plastic nose cone, the second a Phoenix Bird nose cone and the third would be an Enerjet 1340 nose cone if it were red plastic and for thicker wall tube. The 1340 coupler has a band in the middle so that looks original. I want 10,000 parts from that mold.

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Jerry,

Do you still have any of your original 1340's?

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Old 10-25-2008, 03:32 AM
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Is the Estes Eliminator (Maniac in different colors) OOP now? If not, just use the parts from one of those.


Back when I was building my 1340 clones, I contacted Estes and spoke to Christine about the plastic parts I needed.

She said they (Estes) was out of the Eliminator parts but there were leftover parts from the two-stage Longshot kit (Same parts, different color (black)).

So, for less than thirty dollars (Including shipping) I received four sets of fin cans and nose cones. That same amount of money would buy me one Eliminator kit at SRP.

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Old 10-25-2008, 08:30 AM
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Back when I was building my 1340 clones, I contacted Estes and spoke to Christine about the plastic parts I needed.

She said they (Estes) was out of the Eliminator parts but there were leftover parts from the two-stage Longshot kit (Same parts, different color (black)).

So, for less than thirty dollars (Including shipping) I received four sets of fin cans and nose cones. That same amount of money would buy me one Eliminator kit at SRP.

Hmmm, that's weird. I wonder why they wouldn't have parts for a kit they still sell (Eliminator, I just checked the website and they still list it.) and instead have parts for a kit that was last sold 10 years ago. Can't blame ya for going for that deal though.

I bought up a number of Long Shot's a few years back just to have a stockpile of the fin cans and cones.
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Old 10-25-2008, 07:01 PM
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You have some Long Shots? I wish I would have known that.

I should have figured you did though


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Old 10-25-2008, 09:57 PM
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I wonder why the Estes brochure lists the Phoenix Bird as coming out in Spring, 2009, and then lists it again among the kits slated to be released in Summer, 2009? Typo? Or maybe there will be more than one version? (But the kit numbers are the same... )

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I was perusing the Estes product listing on Great Planes hobby distributors' database last night at work.

The availability date of the classic series is now listed as "October". Of course, those dates don't mean much...

Also, I noted that the following rockets have disappeared from the listing:
3012 Excaliber 2
3036 Marauder
3038 Thunder Hawk
3039 Thunder Bird
3040 Thunder Roc

As a crosscheck, Horizon Hobby Distributors doesn't have those kits in their listings, either.
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Given their track record with such release announcements, does this come as a surprise that Estes is either pushing release dates out or dropping mention of items?

My, candid, thoughts are that they are trying to prevent others from producing such kits.
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Old 05-28-2009, 11:04 AM
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Here we go again with announcements that don't come to fruition.
I'll believe in those kits when I have them in my hand and not until.
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Here we go again with announcements that don't come to fruition.
I'll believe in those kits when I have them in my hand and not until.


The Classics were originally scheduled for March/April release.
The main problem is with the HR4040, and, Estes wants to be in compliance with that.

So, it's not the fact that Estes has big ideas that don't come to light, but, when you thrown a roadblaock, you have to deal with it.

From what I heard, the new release date is August.

Also, be looking for the Saturn 1-B and Saturn V among others.
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Old 05-28-2009, 02:39 PM
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As someone else said "given there track record"that alone is why the doubters are doubters. Why else would this type of talk be out there? Estes has lost all credability in the rocket community. Others will produce what estes seems unable or unwilling to. I to think estes says things so others dont produce kits they may normally produce. First it was march than july now august or whatever. Don't anyone hold your breath. Estes is great at building up hope than poof no substance. Regulations right, how long can they use that line? We all know better. Estes road that train long enough now time for a new line. Time for estes to put out product or give it up already
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