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Old 09-21-2005, 10:44 PM
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Well, its time to thin the herd of kits I have
> collected over the
> years..and will never finish. Big ones, Collectible
> ones,
> etc.......None have been started and they are still
> in the original box
> or bag with a header.
> Im in the USA.
> Thanks
>
> ESTES HONEST JOHN #2166 $50
> ESTES V-2 #1952 $50
> ESTES SATURN V #2157 30TH ANNIVERSARY $80
> ESTES GEMINI TITAN #1978 $50
> ESTES TITAN II #1918 $45
> ESTES MERCURY ATLAS #2111 $50
> ESTES COMANCHE III #1382
> ESTES MERCURY REDSTONE #1241 K-41 $50
> ESTES SATURN 1-B #1229 $90
> ESTES TITAN 3 E #2019 $50
> ESTES BLUE BIRD ZERO #1335 $50
> ESTES JUPITER C #1976 $25
> ESTES MAGNUM # 2032 $20
> ESTES SDI SATELLITE #2003 $25
> ESTES SILVER COMET #2141 #25
> ESTES ORBITAL TRANSPORT #1259 $20
> ESTES PEGASUS #1376 #25
> ESTES CHEROKEE D #K-47 $40


Your not in the USA youre up S### creek without a paddle
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:26 AM
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One of the other "tricks" this seller used on ROL was selling the same item more than once. Here's proof of that trying to occur with his current ad. Myself and Kurt Schachner emailed the seller around the same time, interested in buying his K-29 1b for $90. (Who wouldn't want a K-29 for $90?!?) I'm attaching emails the seller sent to me and to Kurt. Hmmm, not sure how one sells the same item twice, unless he invented some type of cloning machine.

Here is the message to me. Note he has an addition problem as well. heh

Hi Scott,
ESTES SATURN 1-B #1229 $90
Shipping $8
Total $89
My address is
Jeff Jones
1760 Sawyer Road
Traverse City, Mi 49684-9255


"J. Jones" <jcjonesy195718@hotmail.com> wrote:


>Thank you. Send me your address to mail it to.

>Scott
>
>
> >mailto:scott@rocketshoppe.com
> >
> >This is the message:
> >
> >Do you still have the 1b available? I'm interested in buying it.
> >
> >Scott
>
> Hi Scott,
> Yes....i can take a money order or a check.
> Let me know what you want to do.
> I will hold it for you.
> thanks
> JJ


Now here's the message thread from Kurt. Note the similarities?


Hi Kurt,
The total is
ESTES MERCURY ATLAS #2111 $50
>ESTES SATURN 1-B #1229 $90
shipping $10
Total $150
My address is
Jeff Jones
1760 Sawyer Road
Traverse City, Mi 49684-9255
Thanks and I am holding them
>
>Hello JJ,
>
>Thanks for your reply. I can send you a money order (or PayPal too), let
me know your address and I'll either send the money or let you know my
PayPal information.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Kurt
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Jones"
<jcjonesy195718@hotmail.com> To: <kurt_schachner@wooshrocketry.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:30 PM
>Subject: Reply to Kurt ....RE: Kits for Sale
>
>
>>
>>
>>>OR, by email:
>>>mailto:kurt_schachner@wooshrocketry.org
>>>
>>>This is the message:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Do you still have the Mercury Atlas and the Saturn 1B kit for sale? If
so, I am interested in them, please let me know.
>>>
>>>Thanks!!
>>
>>Hi,
>>Yes...I can take a money order or a check
>>Let me know what you want to do
>>I will hold them for you.
>>Thanks,
>>JJ
--

So, he wants to sell the 1b to both of us it would appear.
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:42 PM
A Fish Named Wallyum A Fish Named Wallyum is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ltvscout
One of the other "tricks" this seller used on ROL was selling the same item more than once. Here's proof of that trying to occur with his current ad. Myself and Kurt Schachner emailed the seller around the same time, interested in buying his K-29 1b for $90. (Who wouldn't want a K-29 for $90?!?) I'm attaching emails the seller sent to me and to Kurt. Hmmm, not sure how one sells the same item twice, unless he invented some type of cloning machine.

Here is the message to me. Note he has an addition problem as well. heh

Hi Scott,
ESTES SATURN 1-B #1229 $90
Shipping $8
Total $89
My address is
Jeff Jones
1760 Sawyer Road
Traverse City, Mi 49684-9255


"J. Jones" <jcjonesy195718@hotmail.com> wrote:


>Thank you. Send me your address to mail it to.

>Scott
>
>
> >mailto:scott@rocketshoppe.com
> >
> >This is the message:
> >
> >Do you still have the 1b available? I'm interested in buying it.
> >
> >Scott
>
> Hi Scott,
> Yes....i can take a money order or a check.
> Let me know what you want to do.
> I will hold it for you.
> thanks
> JJ


Now here's the message thread from Kurt. Note the similarities?


Hi Kurt,
The total is
ESTES MERCURY ATLAS #2111 $50
>ESTES SATURN 1-B #1229 $90
shipping $10
Total $150
My address is
Jeff Jones
1760 Sawyer Road
Traverse City, Mi 49684-9255
Thanks and I am holding them
>
>Hello JJ,
>
>Thanks for your reply. I can send you a money order (or PayPal too), let
me know your address and I'll either send the money or let you know my
PayPal information.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Kurt
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Jones"
<jcjonesy195718@hotmail.com> To: <kurt_schachner@wooshrocketry.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:30 PM
>Subject: Reply to Kurt ....RE: Kits for Sale
>
>
>>
>>
>>>OR, by email:
>>>mailto:kurt_schachner@wooshrocketry.org
>>>
>>>This is the message:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Do you still have the Mercury Atlas and the Saturn 1B kit for sale? If
so, I am interested in them, please let me know.
>>>
>>>Thanks!!
>>
>>Hi,
>>Yes...I can take a money order or a check
>>Let me know what you want to do
>>I will hold them for you.
>>Thanks,
>>JJ
--

So, he wants to sell the 1b to both of us it would appear.


Sure would be tragic if a bunch of "Bill Me Later" subscriptions were sent to this address. Or even requests for NAMBLA info. (Although they'd probably say "But we just sent you a packet last week!")
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Old 09-22-2005, 03:06 PM
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Yea, and here's mine!

From: "J. Jones" <jcjonesy195718@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: gagnello@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Mercury Atlas
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:34:08 -0400


Hi Gordon,
A money order or a check is ok....

Jeff


>From: Gordon Agnello <gagnello@yahoo.com>
>To: jcjonesy195718@hotmail.com
>Subject: Mercury Atlas
>Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:33:45 -0700 (PDT)

I would be very interested in making a trip up there with some friends!

I especially want to introduce him to my friend Louie...as in Louisville Slugger!
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Old 09-22-2005, 03:39 PM
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I think this should sum it up.

Note to Scott/Buzz if you think this is too much feel free to pull it, I think it displays our feelings in a nutshell.
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Old 09-22-2005, 04:15 PM
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Hmm... You guys must all have it right. Almost two days now and no post on this thread in his own defense. (And I notice on the members pages that he's visited today, too.)
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Old 09-22-2005, 06:15 PM
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THANK YOU SCOTT! Or thank you, thank you, and thank you. I live on a fixed income; in fact I may loose my home if I do not get on disability soon. My Grandson Jacob just got approved for Social Security Disability for he is mentally handicapped and has trouble learning. For the abellical cord was wrapped around his neck and he had a loose of oxigin to his brain. Then when he was 6 months old his mother took of and lived with he boyfrind's family, Jacob’s father and while their he got lead poisoning, but he is still a very worm and loving Grandson, how loves rockets.

Anyway money is short put $50 for a Gemini Titan; I could not bass that up, I was thanking of trying to clone the Plastic parts and I have wanted the rocket for years. Here is the email he sent me.

Put me down for the ESTES GEMINI TITAN #1978 $50 and the
ESTES ORBITAL TRANSPORT #1259 $20. That would be &70.00 plus shipping.
My email address is arleydavis@cox.net

Hi Arley,
Yes i have them
$70 plus $8 shipping
My address is
Jeff Jones
1760 Sawyer Road
Traverse City,Mi 49684-9255
Thanks let me know when you send payment ..I am holding tt


I will see if he will do the tansaction COD.
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Old 09-22-2005, 06:57 PM
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What's reallllllly bad (besides him being dishonest (apparently)), is that he's an elementary school teacher (yes I read the profile ). What can we expect him to be teaching them?

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Old 09-22-2005, 09:13 PM
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Nah, He's probably a used-car salesman, if he does anything else other than internet scams . The profile is probably a social engineering ploy to help beef up the appearance of integrity. (P.C. note: Sorry if I have offended any honest used-car salesmen among the forum members / visitors, 'twas not my intent. )
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:38 PM
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What's reallllllly bad (besides him being dishonest (apparently)), is that he's an elementary school teacher.
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I checked the Traverse City Public Schools directory and there is no Jeff Jones in the directory.
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