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Astron Sprite questions....
Not sure if this is the correct area to ask this so mods please feel free move OR terminate...
Anyway, I am trying to offer a new parts pack for the Sprite. It's one of the few models I never built when I was a wee lad so I have some questions. 1.) What was the preferred motor and what was the diameter of that motor? ((The reason for the first question is that I am trying to decide whether or not to produce a model that will duplicate the exact version of it or should I leave out the gas vent, weight the nose, provide a streamer and motor mount and provide a flyable option? Which brings us to question number 2...)) 2.) I have resurected the Sprite on RocSim8 as best I can and looks like I can convert it ot 13mm and with about .25oz in the nose, it should be a stable flyer that could recover via streamer. Anyone else done something similar? I want to provide the best possible product I can. Unlike other OOP models, the Sprite is not the most straight forward kit to provide an avenue for a modeler who wants to re-produce her...mostly from the powerplant perspective. Any addtional feedback would be most welcome! Thanks, John
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I still have my 1967 original Sprite.
It was made to fly on 18mm 'S' motors. They were 1.75" long and came in 1/4A, 1/2A, and A impulse only. In order to fly mine now, I use an adapter cut from a used 18mm motor and put a 13mm motor inside. I think it's kind of cool the way it tumbles down but I don't know if the average person is going to want to make adapters to fly it. |
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I have an original Astron Sprite that I have flown with a 13mm adapter using 1/4a3's for flying.
I have also made my own "S-series" short engines by cutting an inch off the engine casing of 1/2A6-2's, but this is not exactly NAR safety-code legal Whether or NOT this SHOULD be cosidered a safety code violation is a whole other topic. I think it is silly that removing the plug from A10-PT's to "create" A10-0T's is a violation of the safety code. If it was me, and I was to make this a kit, I would go with a 13mm mount and leave out the gas vent; make it streamer or 8" chute recovery instead of tumble. I think tumble recovery, in a word, STINKS ! It is good for getting a VERY beat up looking rocket, very fast ! Tumble recovery should be used for one thing and one thing ONLY; recovery of light boosters on BP powered 2+ stage models. Even that can be iffy....such as with the booster for the Astron Omega, which is quite heavy for a booster.
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I agree. Just because it WAS done that way is no reason to keep it that way. I've got a Sprite ready for paint that's streamer recovered AND still has the vent hole. I just done trust the Estes ejection charges of late, as I may have mentioned previously. Unless you're talking Mosquitos, tumble recovery blows.
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Good point. Perhaps the way to offer it is giving the 13mm mmt an optional install.
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Bill...did you have to add any nose weight? (BTW, I shipped your stuff yesterday)
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LOL My Sprite was the first rocket I ever built and with the finishing skills I had back then, it looked VERY beat up before I ever launched it. |
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SHEESH !!!
Yechhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! I'm not sure I'd own up to one that ugly.... I think I'd at least refinish it to a PRESENTABLE state !
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Oh, I don't think I will. If I refinished it, it would probably get lost on the next launch. Ugly rockets always seem to come back. It serves a purpose just like it is. No matter how badly I screw up the finish on a new model, I can always say " At least it isn't as bad that Sprite" |
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