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Old 08-26-2011, 04:03 PM
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I have always used Elmers white glue with great results but then they changed the forumla and not it is junk. Titebond origianl wood glue is great but I don't like the yellow staining it leaves behind especially on my freeflight airplanes. Today I was at Lowe's and I found a new Titebond glue called translucent wood glue. It is exactly the same forumla as Titebond Wood glue but it dries clear.
Titebond's Translucent Wood Glue and No-Run, No-Drip Wood Glue
Titebond debuted two brand new glues at AWFS® Fair 2011: Translucent Wood Glue and No-Run, No-Drip Wood Glue. Here are the 2 new glues from Titebond.

"Titebond Translucent Wood Glue has all the characteristics of Titebond Original Wood Glue but leaves virtually invisible glue lines when dry. In other words, woodworkers won’t be able to see what makes Franklin International’s newest Titebond wood glue so unique. Besides the transparent glue lines, Titebond Translucent Wood Glue also provides excellent bond strength, a four-to-six-minute working time and shorter clamp time. Once cured, Titebond Translucent offers higher heat resistance than typical PVA glues for more durable bonds over time and better sanding characteristics. And, because the glue is non-toxic, it’s a safe glue to use when introducing children to woodworking.

Titebond's No-Run, No-Drip Wood Glue is the highest viscosity PVA wood glue on the market. It stays right where it’s put, for easy, neat gluing of interior trim carpentry or small trim pieces on cabinets and furniture. It has a faster dry time then Titebond's Molding and Trim Glue, yet still provides three to five minutes of open time for repositioning. Its strong initial tack holds trim in place. "
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:43 PM
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My quibble with yellow glue (alphetic resin): The shrink factor. It's hard to get gap-free fillets, and it leaves a ring on the outside of body tubes when used with engine mounts.

I use white glue for those specific purposes. I'd welcome alternatives.
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:12 PM
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I use epoxy almost exclusively for rings and for fillets. It doesn't shrink that I know of, and if you use a medium cure time epoxy for internal rings and couplers, it has a sort of "lube" effect.
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:29 PM
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I like to use Gorilla Glue brand white wood glue. It dries clear and sands easily. It has sufficient tack that allows you to make minor adjustment to fins before drying.
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Gorilla white glue? The only wood glue I have seen dries brown/tan. I saw a white glue made by Gorilla, but the directions stated both surfaces had to be moist.
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Gorilla white glue? The only wood glue I have seen dries brown/tan. I saw a white glue made by Gorilla, but the directions stated both surfaces had to be moist.


The stuff I'm refering too can be found here: http://www.gorillaglue.com/glues/woodglue/index.aspx

I bought mine at Wal-Mart
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Old 08-26-2011, 09:43 PM
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I have always used Elmers white glue with great results but then they changed the forumla and not it is junk. Titebond origianl wood glue is great but I don't like the yellow staining it leaves behind especially on my freeflight airplanes. Today I was at Lowe's and I found a new Titebond glue called translucent wood glue. It is exactly the same forumla as Titebond Wood glue but it dries clear.
Titebond's Translucent Wood Glue and No-Run, No-Drip Wood Glue
Titebond debuted two brand new glues at AWFS® Fair 2011: Translucent Wood Glue and No-Run, No-Drip Wood Glue. Here are the 2 new glues from Titebond.

"Titebond Translucent Wood Glue has all the characteristics of Titebond Original Wood Glue but leaves virtually invisible glue lines when dry. In other words, woodworkers won’t be able to see what makes Franklin International’s newest Titebond wood glue so unique. Besides the transparent glue lines, Titebond Translucent Wood Glue also provides excellent bond strength, a four-to-six-minute working time and shorter clamp time. Once cured, Titebond Translucent offers higher heat resistance than typical PVA glues for more durable bonds over time and better sanding characteristics. And, because the glue is non-toxic, it’s a safe glue to use when introducing children to woodworking.

Titebond's No-Run, No-Drip Wood Glue is the highest viscosity PVA wood glue on the market. It stays right where it’s put, for easy, neat gluing of interior trim carpentry or small trim pieces on cabinets and furniture. It has a faster dry time then Titebond's Molding and Trim Glue, yet still provides three to five minutes of open time for repositioning. Its strong initial tack holds trim in place. "


SO does the No-Run, No-Drip replace the the TMTG, or is it an alternative product offered along side TMTG?? I REALLY like TMTG for fillets and such-- no runs, no drips, and virtually no detectable shrinkage as it dries. Virtually no pinholes and such as it dries and when dry it's almost completely clear.

As for the Transparent wood glue, have you used it?? Is it pretty much a drop-in replacement for white glue or does it have the shrink issues of regular yellow wood glues?? (I HATE that "sucked in ring" around the body tube you get from using yellow wood glue to install motor mounts-- so while I sometimes use yellow wood glue to mount the centering rings to the motor tube, I always use white glue to install the motor mount/rings inside the main body tube to eliminate that shrinkage induced ring. Plus, white glue has a MUCH longer work time than yellow glue, preventing "lockup" halfway through the installation process... It looks pretty interesting.

I know I've been very impressed with Titebond products. I've switched to Titebond II for all my yellow glue work over Elmer's, and I've used the TMTG and been quite impressed with it for fillets. If they make a good white glue with the same general properties as white glue (good working time and little/no shrinkage) I'll use it in a minute.

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Titebond Molding and Trim Glue


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Sorry... thought it'd be obvious considering the topic...

Titebond Moulding and Trim Glue... TMTG...

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